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Learn more. Thank you Gearspace. Reaktor versus Max. In my case I want reaktor 6 vs max for live free make my own synth sounds as deep as I can dreamweaver free softonic free it is not about the learning curve, more about possibilities and the maximum of versatility.

Thanks in advance. Best regards, Juljan. My Studio. They look similar, but are actually quite different Reaktor is what you are looking for, if you just want to make your own synths. It has better sounding built-in "pieces" oscillators and filters and a very flexible environment взято отсюда putting them together. This is especially true in R6, where they introduced the "Blocks" functionality!

Personally, I find it a bit less elegant than MAX in terms of "patching workflow", but it makes up for that in other ways. MAX is really better for creating whole "environments" than single-use units like synthesizers. That isn't to say they can't be done - they certainly can - but it is kinda "overkill" for that. There is also the issue of needing to program oscillators and filters if you want to match the SQ of Reaktor or stand-alone.

That being said, MAX is in a lot of перейти на страницу less "intimidating" in terms of workflow, because its environment is insanely well thought-out and intuitive Hope ezdrummer 2 adobe free helps a bit! I'm reaktor 6 vs max for live free answer these questions in a bit of a reverse order, so stick with me: Quote:. I already spent some time using Reaktor 5.

Of course blocks are a big step forward, it seems easier creating sounds with it but for me it is - as I said - about versatility and the depth of the program. I'm gonna answer these questions in a bit of a reaktor 6 vs max for live free order, so stick with me: I think you're asking the wrong question. The truth is that they are pretty "comparable", in terms of learning workflow - if you learn one, you'll reaktor 6 vs max for live free a decent grasp on the other far more quickly than if you had no experience with either.

The important thing to remember is that they are both extremely deep programs and decidedly different in application, but also very similar in execution. Reaktor is more intended to be a "plug-in environment". It doesn't really stand on its own, it needs a host to be most effective. It is geared towards - and has the built-in tools for - building instruments and effects to be used in a "production взято отсюда. It also is much more "plug-and-play" than MAX, having a much higher quality built-in library of higher-level signal components.

That being said, it isn't really the best environment for either learning to build or building synths, because in its generality it also gains overhead. It isn't all that Reaktor 6 vs max for live free efficient unless you debug a lot and code at lower levels, oftenand it is hard to get your products working in traditional production environments outside Ableton Live, and even then there are limitations. That being said I find it much easier to get started with than "raw programming" in Reaktor working with Blocks or higher-level objects is easier in NI's programand the documentation is 2nd to none So all in all, I'd say that they are very different from each other, but both worth knowing.

I'll get to my actual answer after addressing your other points Reaktor 6 massively improved the "synth building experience", as well as really upping the quality of available high-level objects. With 6, it isn't really an issue. Here is one half of what I see as your problem - you admit that you would find Blocks, a unikuely-Reaktor-produkt, extremely helpful in what you want to do, yet you worry that MAX is a "deeper and more versatile program" I implore you, please don't worry about that!

It will take you They are both essentially infinitely deep programs! As a caveat, адрес страницы is a strong argument that MAX is the "deeper" program, simply because it is a stand-alone environment.

It is designed to build entire products from the ground up - there is nothing stopping you from coding a [rudimentary] DAW in MAX! Well, that is, other than the major CPU issues with largish projects. The thing is, what is it that you, personally, are trying to do? You say that you want to build synths. Do you want to be forced to code your own oscillators, either in pure math or C?

Because that is what you'll get to rather quickly in MAX. You can do that the C, not the math - Gen is awesome, and Reaktor has nothing close in Reaktor, too, but the built-in objects are much higher quality.

Do you want reaktor 6 vs max for live free use your synth in a larger production environment? As in, as a plug-in in a DAW? Then Reaktor is far superior. Sure, you can compile MAX patchers into plugins, but it is far from seamless - and MFL has its own downsides, so the thought of building it in MAX and using it in Live isn't as easy as you might think So, which do I recommend? Truth be told, Reaktor 6. I love MAX for what it is, but it isn't the best for those wanting to build their own effects and synths for traditional production.

If I were you, I'd not worry in the slightest about "depth" - while MAX may in theory may be "deeper", in practice it is impossible to reach the bottom of either program, so it is a moot point. Eventually, if you love this way of working - нажмите чтобы прочитать больше patching, I mean - you should get both.

MAX is a great deal of fun, and very inspiring, to work with. That being said, it is much better as a "stand-alone environment" for building entire projects than it is as something to build components of a larger work Thanks again for answering in detail. I think I got your point. Because I looked up a little bit around these things I found out that there is also some open reaktor 6 vs max for live free with SuperCollider and Pure Data.

SuperCollider is more like "Live Coding" than anything else. These are not the droids you are looking for. There lie dragons. And so on. Live coding is a very different thing than working with visual-object-oriented programming, and frankly is more of a "performance art gimmick" than a real tool for making real music There are of course exceptions, but they как сообщается здесь the exceptions that prove the rule.

Live Coding is performance art. Live Patching can be performance art, but also can be reaktor 6 vs max for live free in musically useful ways. Pure Data is a fork off an early version of MAX that got a life of its own. It is pseudo-open-source and documented as such. If you are serious about learning to code, then they are comparable, but if you are serious about learning how to build synths, then MAX is miles ahead. If you are serious about learning this stuff, don't hobble yourself by trying to go the cheap route.

MAX's big draw is the insanely useful and well-thought-out documentation. Pure Data lacks anything of the sort, not to mention a lot of the very useful high-level tools for actual creation that MAX has added over the past few versions Gen, most notably. Though let me reiterate, if you are trying to design usable synths for musical application, Reaktor is almost certainly the best tool for the job.

Documentation is everything when it comes to learning a programing language, and MAX has it where PD does not. SC, Tidal, vvvv, and so on are something else entirely! I quote everything Paul says I just want to add that if your curious about patching software for creating synths you should have a look at Automatism. It's free, based on puredata, sounds good and it's pretty simple to set up. Diogo C. The Vogon Captain is instructing everyone to use Core, not Blocks. It's free, based on puredata, sounds good and it's pretty simple to set up Keep that up, and I'll quote my poetry at you!

Yes, I know, technically Blocks are built from Core components - which is sorta the point, really. Blocks lets you get "up and running" very quickly, then break them apart and tinker. I shall remove the Babel fish from my ear. So they are. That's great, I can fiddle around with or pinch stuff from their internals. Hmm, it runs audio rate stuff at the native sample rate, and control stuff at whatever the control rate is set to? Also it can be run at higher than the native sample reaktor 6 vs max for live free through the oversampling options.

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Or else I shall rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, See if I don't! Oh I made the same mistake at first, upon installing Reaktor 6 - then I "broke one open", so to speak, and a whole lot of possibilities opened up! Beneath the shiny, well-designed interfaces slept a world of modules ripe for the pinching

 

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Swing like your life depends on it. Re: max for live vs reaktor Post by convex » Thu May 20, pm The obvious answer is that using Max enables you to integrate a patch tightly within Ableton's interface and workflow, while Reaktor is subject to the limitations imposed by its status as a plug in. Re: max for live vs reaktor Post by HeadrickProductions » Thu May 20, pm was looking for more specific reasons, but thanks for the start i guess i was looking for some things people have done that they could not get done with reaktor or max on it's own.

Last edited by HeadrickProductions on Thu May 20, pm, edited 1 time in total. Re: max for live vs reaktor Post by Tone Deft » Thu May 20, pm try a forum search, this has been beat to death. In my life Why do I smile At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?

Re: max for live vs reaktor Post by Tone Deft » Thu May 20, pm HeadrickProductions wrote: i guess i was looking for some things people have done that they could not get done with reaktor or max on it's own. I am glad to understand your point, and it is a good one. The part of the overly long page the link took me to was entitled "Latency Adjustments", hence my previous comment.

The limitation of Reaktor to a single core is indeed an issue, solved for some by hosting different Reaktor instruments in a DAW that can distribute them across a processor chip. More significant limitations of that program for me include the lack of scripting and the lack of a proper re-usable code model.

On the other hand, Reaktor has thousands of usable instruments to hack, right out of the box. Including good emulations of just about any classic synth or effect box.

Max cannot compete with that library. Plus, Reaktor a better interface model. And sells for only clams, if you wait for the annual sale.

We could go on with pluses and minuses, but perhaps that wasn't your point. Live Coding is performance art. Live Patching can be performance art, but also can be used in musically useful ways. Pure Data is a fork off an early version of MAX that got a life of its own. It is pseudo-open-source and documented as such. If you are serious about learning to code, then they are comparable, but if you are serious about learning how to build synths, then MAX is miles ahead.

If you are serious about learning this stuff, don't hobble yourself by trying to go the cheap route. MAX's big draw is the insanely useful and well-thought-out documentation.

Pure Data lacks anything of the sort, not to mention a lot of the very useful high-level tools for actual creation that MAX has added over the past few versions Gen, most notably. Though let me reiterate, if you are trying to design usable synths for musical application, Reaktor is almost certainly the best tool for the job. Documentation is everything when it comes to learning a programing language, and MAX has it where PD does not. SC, Tidal, vvvv, and so on are something else entirely!

I quote everything Paul says I just want to add that if your curious about patching software for creating synths you should have a look at Automatism. It's free, based on puredata, sounds good and it's pretty simple to set up.

Diogo C. The Vogon Captain is instructing everyone to use Core, not Blocks. It's free, based on puredata, sounds good and it's pretty simple to set up Keep that up, and I'll quote my poetry at you!

Yes, I know, technically Blocks are built from Core components - which is sorta the point, really. Blocks lets you get "up and running" very quickly, then break them apart and tinker. I shall remove the Babel fish from my ear. So they are.

That's great, I can fiddle around with or pinch stuff from their internals. What are your thoughts? Thanks a lot guys! As far as lofi digital sounds I think you will be much better off with reaktor as it is more suited to building devices with higher level components. Making something lofi digital that sounds good is harder than it might seem, and having all the tools that are available with reaktor by taking apart ensembles will make the process much faster.

You can put the effort and develop that sort of sound in Max, but it will require a lot more work than coming up with something in Reaktor.

If you're into vintage 'computer music' on the hand, like 80s acousmatic, csound, xenekis etc then Max is a better choice. But if you want to mock up something that's like an 80s digital hybrid then reaktor is more suited to that. Post by thelizard » Tue Jan 31, pm One thing to consider with Reaktor 6 is the massive, free user library. If you like the sound of Braids, I ported a number of the oscillator modes from there directly. The Toy Oscillator, for instance, is a lo-fi glitchy oscillator that sounds like it's coming out of an old toy.

I would say that Reaktor is more immediate, especially with the advent of Blocks. I use both almost every day and find them to be very different tools. Also, as gruebleengourd mentioned above, M4L is the entirety of Max 7 minus the ability to run your patches outside of Live. The module selection is very nice. Unfortunately, you need to buy that in addition to M4L.

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